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. >> you know, john mccain and i, we're a couple of mavericks. and gosh darn it, we're going to take that maverick energy right to washington. and we're going to use it to fix this financial crisis. >> reporter: the real al gore was so stiff in his first debate -- >> i will put medicare and social security in a lockbox. >> reporter: -- his staff made him watch this. >> one of the keys to the lockbox would be kept by the president. >> reporter: the real john...
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i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened, but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes, this was -- this is being thoroughly investigated. >> it wasn't planned. it was part of this tape. all that stuff. >> as a director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or administration that shoots first and asks questions later. governor romney le
i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the...
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john mccain couldn't get him to release it. i got him to release it he spent $2.8 million trying to fight it. in one way i am proud of him but i don't know what it is. >> more than that, you know what i want to see? i want to see the college transcripts. he goes from ox ten tal columbia top schools in the nation. >> when he does the cover of the book it didn't get printed but it was when he was younger it says born in kenya raised in indonesia. born in kenya born in indonesia. then the publisher comes out and sort of immediately said it was so then said it was a typographical errors. the word the, the word a. born in kenya raised in indones indonesia. maybe he said it for other reasons. >> to sell the book. >> maybe for others. is that a typographical error? >>> oo you have written many more i have got to be honest you go over every one of those lines in detail. that is not something that is -- >> supposedly that line is dictated him. >> i would like to know if there is definitive evidence it has never been my main issue. it is
john mccain couldn't get him to release it. i got him to release it he spent $2.8 million trying to fight it. in one way i am proud of him but i don't know what it is. >> more than that, you know what i want to see? i want to see the college transcripts. he goes from ox ten tal columbia top schools in the nation. >> when he does the cover of the book it didn't get printed but it was when he was younger it says born in kenya raised in indonesia. born in kenya born in indonesia. then...
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senator john mccain from arizona. >> i have no examples of anybody trying to suppress the vote. i think people should have to prove who they are. i cannot cash a check without a driver's license. but we are allowing people to vote without proof of their identity, who can walk into a boater's registration drive and say their name is tim tebow and get a valid. >> and you are saying there are some who are giving false names? >> we know they did it in 2008 and 2010. my expectation is they will probably do it again. >> enough already. what interests me is what has caused this mess. are they bumping into each other and not saying excuse me? are they failing to tell each other to have a nice days? >> of course not. america is a placid place. or maybe not. perhaps ordinary americans are the problem. many years ago, the late senator had a message for his fellow citizens -- you are entitled as americans to your opinions, but you're not entitled to your on facts. well, americans thought carefully about what he said and decided to take no notice. this man has dabbled in fact and fiction in
senator john mccain from arizona. >> i have no examples of anybody trying to suppress the vote. i think people should have to prove who they are. i cannot cash a check without a driver's license. but we are allowing people to vote without proof of their identity, who can walk into a boater's registration drive and say their name is tim tebow and get a valid. >> and you are saying there are some who are giving false names? >> we know they did it in 2008 and 2010. my expectation...
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john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him.
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what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. it contains some of the most devisive class warfare rhetoric ever used by barack obama. that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc co
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in 2008 barack obama took florida, the majority of seniors voted for john mccain because they were hesitant how the health care reform would take place. talking about ryan and medicare and seniors, it comes down to florida. >> florida, florida, florida, david. she is right about one thing. if you look at the poll, the one area where you see consistent movement poll after poll after poll toward barack obama has been with senior citizens. you know as well as i do, they are a consistent voting block. they go to the polls in larger percentages. has the obama administration been successful at branding the medicare plan of the republicans as voucher care and are senior citizens moving away because they're afraid of the medicare changes? >> the ryan budget plan existed in terms of the 2010 election when republicans won 65 plus seniors by 21 points. part of the dynamic that exists here is, in fact, seniors are really unhappy with president obama's health care plan. what you see is this significant concern handling medicare, four years ago republicans would lose that by 25 points. now it's down in l
in 2008 barack obama took florida, the majority of seniors voted for john mccain because they were hesitant how the health care reform would take place. talking about ryan and medicare and seniors, it comes down to florida. >> florida, florida, florida, david. she is right about one thing. if you look at the poll, the one area where you see consistent movement poll after poll after poll toward barack obama has been with senior citizens. you know as well as i do, they are a consistent...
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even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for tonight, they don't want a pitch at office park dads. they want -- they want the candidates to speak to the country. >> but i'm curious, michael, how many people do you think are watching, not asking for an exact number, i don't think you walk around counting folks, your idea on thoughts,
even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we...
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and the current senator, john mccain, republican. [applause] served in our military, house, senate and of course was the republican nominee for president. you have already met governor schwarzenegger. i told governor schwarzenegger it's significantly harder. our former california governor and convener here at our wonderful institute. former governor and house member and member of the cabinet, tom ridge and republican of pennsylvania also -- and forme house member and governor of the house, governor of minnesota. -- of new mexico. and i figured i would let them all sit down first then figure out which one was my chair. >> i come to -- that's be why senator mccain, you're the brave man here. you worked with senator crist and the majority leader while you all held those jobs. but it doesn't happen very often before people take office. and we have wonderful examples from or former presidents. i mean bill chriss campaigned against you, but he didn't defeat you. president carter defeated >> and now he works with and with george w bush as w
and the current senator, john mccain, republican. [applause] served in our military, house, senate and of course was the republican nominee for president. you have already met governor schwarzenegger. i told governor schwarzenegger it's significantly harder. our former california governor and convener here at our wonderful institute. former governor and house member and member of the cabinet, tom ridge and republican of pennsylvania also -- and forme house member and governor of the house,...
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o'donnell also preparing john mccain for his debate against president obama. he tells bill o'reilly what mitt romney will need to do in order to come out on top tonight. listen to this. >> the burden in the debate is on the governor, or am i wrong? >> i think you are absolutely right. while the challenger gets elevated by being on the stage with the president clearly the president is on the mountain top. he won the last set of debates. there has to be a compelling reason for change. governor romney has the burden of proof. >> you prepped john mccain for his debate with barack obama. mccain held his own but didn't bring the debate to the president mccain never brought it to him. this guy doesn't know what he is talking about he is talking in generalities but that didn't get through to the electorate who liked obama and still likes obama. >> that is one of the reasons he has to go on offense. >> we will see tonight. coverage starts at 8:55 eastern time with megan kelly and bret baier. they will be live from denver. >> now test time for the 5@5:30. the accused fo
o'donnell also preparing john mccain for his debate against president obama. he tells bill o'reilly what mitt romney will need to do in order to come out on top tonight. listen to this. >> the burden in the debate is on the governor, or am i wrong? >> i think you are absolutely right. while the challenger gets elevated by being on the stage with the president clearly the president is on the mountain top. he won the last set of debates. there has to be a compelling reason for change....
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just as he was for john mccain and george w. bush. the news isn't too surprising. he's not alone. more than a few team owners in major sports are politically involved. there can be a backlash from these kinds of political stands. famous quote from 1990. michael jordan was asked to support a democratic candidate for senate, declined at the time saying republicans buy shoes, too. currently the owner of the charlotte bobcats and raises money for president obama. i don't think he's all that concerned at this point in his life and career that people will alienate him because of his political choices. >> back in the day, he was selling a lot of shoes. maybe that was the reason for that comment. a.j. hammer, thanks so much. he will be back with us in the next hour for more showbiz headlines. >>> the man behind the viral individu video sits down to talk about his breakdown and hospitalization. >>> one credit card company is paying out hundreds of dollars to each of its card holders. it's not because they racked up a bunch of reward points. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some peo
just as he was for john mccain and george w. bush. the news isn't too surprising. he's not alone. more than a few team owners in major sports are politically involved. there can be a backlash from these kinds of political stands. famous quote from 1990. michael jordan was asked to support a democratic candidate for senate, declined at the time saying republicans buy shoes, too. currently the owner of the charlotte bobcats and raises money for president obama. i don't think he's all that...
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mccain. but they're a reflection of how people feel right now. we still have five weeks to the election. >> it's nice to see you in person. >> great to be here. >> let's do this more often. >> i'll come up. >> appreciate it. >>> and quick reminder for you, as well. it's a really exciting night. i like to call it date night, but it's debate night in america. it's right here on cnn. we've got extraordinarily special coverage. come on, wolf blitzer and anderson cooper together, it does not get better than that. 7:00 p.m. eastern and if you can't get to a tv, you got your ipad or laptop, we stream this live on cnn.com, do not miss it. be a great voter. longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now during chevy truck month, get 0% apr financing for 60 months or trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $8,000. hurry in before they're all gone! >>> you like tax
mccain. but they're a reflection of how people feel right now. we still have five weeks to the election. >> it's nice to see you in person. >> great to be here. >> let's do this more often. >> i'll come up. >> appreciate it. >>> and quick reminder for you, as well. it's a really exciting night. i like to call it date night, but it's debate night in america. it's right here on cnn. we've got extraordinarily special coverage. come on, wolf blitzer and...
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you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the big underreported reasons for that is how the romney/ryan ticket has offended seniors. we've talked about how this ticket offended women, african-americans, hispanics. the big story is how they have offended seniors and how seniors have gone from the romney/ryan camp into the obama camp largely i think because of the ryan plan on medicare, and so that -- the 47% was poorly answered by ryan, but an equal weight around this campaign's neck is that medicare plan which is tur
you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to...
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what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. it contains some of the most divisive class warfare rhetoric ever used by barack obama. that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were th
what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are...
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congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> you know, these are sitting members of congress. >> yeah. >> alan west won, of course. we know his party. he's very conservative nap said, john mccain. are you surprised by his comments? >> i'm very surprised by his comment. all of those comments, they're not just deeply irresponsible, but without a shred of evidence they are casting doubt about a very important number in our economy. now, if you understand the way the bureau of labor statistics collects data, and i used to work for the department of labor, and i used to work for
congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i...
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the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner last night in massachusetts where scott brown and democratic challenger elizabeth warren faced off in a debate. moderated by nbc's david gregory. it was tense from the outset. >> if you're going to comment on my record, i would at least have you refer to it -- excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay? >> that was an echo of a quip brown used in 2010 when he told martha kwaurkly i'm not in your courtroom, i'm
the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people...
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this is coming from a guy whose first campaign ad against barack obama presented a quote about john mccain and pretended that president obama was saying it about himself. they defended the ad as honest. romney is running on his business create. he says he created 100,000 jobs as the ce ork as bain. he claimed he had no involvement with managing bain after 1999. but wait a minute. sec filings show him as the ceo and sole stake holder in the company for three additional years. now during those years, what happened? thousands of people were laid off in the bain companies while mitt romney profited. speaking of bain, romney says he's going to get tough on china as president if he's elected. even though his recent tax returns show that he was making investment money all from chinese internet companies accused of stealing american content. he says president obama apologizes for america overseas even though not a single transcript ever shows him apologizing. when mitt romney had a chance to weigh in on the international incident, what did he do? he accused president obama of sympathizing with ame
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tell your friends 52.8 million people watched the first debate between senator john mccain and then senator obama four years ago. 80% of the country's adults reported watching at least some of the presidential debates in 2008. >>> enough of the real news, let's huddle up around the water cooler to get you ready for the rumble in the rockies. aides to president obama said he's focusing on looking calm. romney's team says it is loading up the candidate with zingers, one-liners aim the at the president. the campaign told "the new york times" last week, quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. the zinger strategy apparently includes luring president obama into appearing smug or evasive in his responses, especially on questions of the economy. this is where jimmy fallon comes in. >> tomorrow is the first of three debates between myself and president obama. i'm looking forward to having a serious conversation with my opponent about the issues. i've
tell your friends 52.8 million people watched the first debate between senator john mccain and then senator obama four years ago. 80% of the country's adults reported watching at least some of the presidential debates in 2008. >>> enough of the real news, let's huddle up around the water cooler to get you ready for the rumble in the rockies. aides to president obama said he's focusing on looking calm. romney's team says it is loading up the candidate with zingers, one-liners aim the at...
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in '08, part of the reason the president won was his people were way more enthusiastic than john mccain's. >> we heard enthusiasm on the republicans side last year and now it's down to turn out. people are voting right now. today. they're starting to vote tomorrow this ohio. our supporters are camped out at polling places and thousands more democrats voted in iowa last week than republicans. that's the way we've built this organization on the ground for the past 500 days. we're ip venvesting in a ground organization. >> we'll hit pause there, but going to be talking a lot to both of you in the next 30 some odd days and still to come, another campaign issue. taxing marijuana to fund schools. it could move the needle. on this presidential election. that is no joke. plus, violence in afghanistan rising as the war is winding down, but it isn't stopping. a father, a mother and a son from deploying together to the war. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tabl
in '08, part of the reason the president won was his people were way more enthusiastic than john mccain's. >> we heard enthusiasm on the republicans side last year and now it's down to turn out. people are voting right now. today. they're starting to vote tomorrow this ohio. our supporters are camped out at polling places and thousands more democrats voted in iowa last week than republicans. that's the way we've built this organization on the ground for the past 500 days. we're ip...
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we agree air the debates across the country, john mccain has pleaded -- has tweeted. let's hear from matt from houston. >> imf republican, but i find myself for the middle of the road. -- i am a republican, but i am free middle of the road. we will have distinct differences on what we think about certain things. but one thing that i pulled away in favor of mitt romney was that he has a clear record of being able to work well and get things done in a very partisan environment in the state of massachusetts. if you look at president obama's record, he has a record of not being able to work well in a partisan environment. we will have to work together to get things done and my vote will go to mitt romney because he has a record of being able to do something just like that. >> thank you so much. in addition to posting your comments and we already have a lot of them on the debate, more than 1200 comments have come in on tonight's first debate, we also now have it all up there, which is a simple "who won?" let's take a look at how things stand right now. my technology is not
we agree air the debates across the country, john mccain has pleaded -- has tweeted. let's hear from matt from houston. >> imf republican, but i find myself for the middle of the road. -- i am a republican, but i am free middle of the road. we will have distinct differences on what we think about certain things. but one thing that i pulled away in favor of mitt romney was that he has a clear record of being able to work well and get things done in a very partisan environment in the state...
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bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words reagan turned concern that he had gotten old and doddy on its head. challenger walter mondale said later when i heard that, i knew i had lost. what would you consider successful debate? >> the things that matter the most to the voters, to hell with the candidates and to hell with the moderators and to hell with the handlers and to hell with the pundits, but the things that voters care the most about have been discussed and have been discussed in a way that they can now understand what the differences are. that's what these debates are really al
bush and john mccain. he coached mitt romney during the primaries. >> the object is to capture the imagination of both the audience and the press to make sure your message gets covered. one way to do that is to have a clever line >> schieffer: no one could deliver a line like ronald reagan. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. (laughing) >> schieffer: with those words...
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in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with senator john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the right time. i didn't debate until i got to college, and then i decided to make debate a career. i coached for 18 years at liberty university and happened to meet karl rove. i knew that they had, that john kerry was using bob shrum as their debate coach and said to karl rove, you need a debate coach for the president, and he hired me. and that was my first job in politics, was coaching president bush. jenna: fascinating, karl rove surfaces again somewhere out there. >> with the mastermind of all. [laughter] jenna: you know, i didn't ever participate in the debate team. one of the things i did was play sports, and you watch game tape, right? you watch a lot of film. we just showed film of reagan and carter, and i'm curio
in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with senator john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the right time. i didn't debate until i got to college, and then i decided to make debate a career. i coached for 18...
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he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a president is just isolated. and i think john is exactly right. nobody has talked to him this way in four years. >> we all know the presidency is a bubble. you exist in that bubble. we also know from your reporting and other reporting that we read continually that there's little interaction between this president and members of the senate and members of the house. there's little personal interaction. there's no phone calls back and forth. we don't know where will what happens. but we do know from last night when mitt romney says i don't know what you're talking about, we do know the look that registered on president obama's face was, you know, who are you to be saying that to me? there's another element here. john meacham
he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a president is just isolated. and i think john is exactly right. nobody has talked to him this way in four years. >> we all know the presidency is a...